#but yeah im actually really heavily invested in the lore for both of these and i saw that reply and couldn’t stop myself from biting lol

[onewingeddragonqueen]

Okay. I thought I was gonna leave this alone but I cannot and its eating at me!!

GRRM is heavily inspired by mythology, and this motif of 3s is actually very prevalent in a lot of different canons (many of these legends intersect and are often retellings of each other). Christianity’s Holy Trinity, the Triumurti, the triple goddess Hecate, Zeus-Poseidon-Hades, Anu-Enlil-Enki, there are so many more!

You can actually see this in the 7. Maiden-Mother-Crone is actually an archetype that shows the divine feminine at the three stages of her life, while Father-Warrior-Smith parallels the heavenly father you worship, soldier in constant warfare, and the daily work and toil peasants saw most of their life enduring. The stranger exists in opposition to these easily recognizable constructs, as a shifting shadow that doesn’t fit neatly into male nor female, god of death and fundamentally unknowable. I would argue that the maiden-mother-crone is a single grouping of three faces, the father-warrior-smith is another, while the stranger sits on its own. The seven disguises itself as 7 and fits into this numerology, but its also a triple deity in disguise. You can go back to mythology itself to see this, as the Triple Goddess often follows that very structure, and the worship-war-toil structure is common for male deities. There is also however Heaven-Earth-Underworld, which this larger grouping of the seven would fit pretty neatly into (mmc-fws-stranger).

But what I found suuuper interesting is the god Trios, who is worshipped in Essos and has three heads.

“One time, the girl remembered, the Sailor's Wife had walked her rounds with her and told her tales of the city's stranger gods. "That is the house of the Great Shepherd. Three-headed Trios has that tower with three turrets. The first head devours the dying, and the reborn emerge from the third. I don't know what the middle head's supposed to do.”

This sticks out heavily to me, not just because of the three heads of the dragon, but because of the Trimurti and other deities that follow the pattern of Creation-Preservation-Destruction. That middle head is so obscured because, like the Stranger, it sits in a realm shrouded by cognitive dissonance and eludes all categorization. You want to fit it in this box or another, you want answers but you won’t find them easily.

Now onto Dinraal-Naydra-Farosh, AKA Din-Nayru-Farore. Din is the goddess of power (Ganon’s part of the Triforce), Nayru is the goddess of wisdom (Zelda’s part of the Triforce), and Farore is the goddess of courage (Link’s part of the Triforce). Courage and wisdom are widely touted as virtues, and it is understandable why. The courage it takes to stand against ancient evil, the wisdom to learn and master powers you fear you may not even have, it is commendable especially in a world that is plagued by bokoblins and stals and keese and that one guardian who just keeps on following you. We are constantly bombarded with the message that courage and wisdom are the tools of the saintly, and we should aspire to meet that. Its older than Arthurian legend.

But power. I mean, Ganon stole the Triforce of Power and immediately used it to subjugate Hyrule to obtain the complete Triforce. We have been told that the aspiration for power is evil, and to even look above your station and try for it is proof that you are ambitious and cruel and unfit. But the thing that I love so much about the dragons of Zelda is that they aren’t evil. Dinraal isn’t evil, they are simply powerful and if you get too close their fire will burn you. It is not to hoard treasure, its not some wicked beast to slay. It is a neutral, beautiful, but deadly being. And I love that the Hyrule Compendium literally specifies that about all the dragons: they bear humanity no ill will. Just like the Guardians, Divine Beasts, and Naydra, who has been corrupted by the malice, Ganon corrupted the Triforce of Power for his own means. It isn’t inherently a negative thing. In fact, Din is the creator goddess of Hyrule!

So putting that all back into the mythology. You have your creator goddess Din, and her creation has been taken by malicious figures who seek to oppress the very world she wanted to love and protect. There’s Nayru, whose wisdom allows her to preserve the law and order, establishing peace and prosperity in the land. Then there is Farore, who is the goddess of courage yes but also the source of life itself, and falls into the category of destruction or better put change, because when looking at these gods on a comparatively mythology level thats often how you can describe them best. And it makes sense. Life must change to survive, we change our environments and have the potential to destroy and its a tragedy but we can also rebuild and grow and become anew. Life is adaptation, and Link is ever changing and learning and responding to whatever the world throws at him. It is the courage to keep going in the face of mortality, to live in spite of the cycle of life and death and rebirth that haunts him in a way that would seem cruel and soul crushing to most people in his position.

Back to ASOIAF, we know that the dragon must have three heads. But in all actuality I kind of feel that the three heads of the dragon must all embody all three of these things in varying degrees, and compliment each other where the other two traits need it. In other words, its all about balance.

Someone who seeks holds power, and uses it for good.

Someone who is wise and balances power between courage, who preserves and chooses the best options with all the information available.

Someone who embodies change and is willing to do all that it takes to keep life going, fighting in the face of insurmountable odds.

Drogon, Rhaegal, Viserion. Dany, and whichever heads may follow.

I will pioneer the loz/asoiaf parallels with my bare fucking hands if I have to so help me

[perenlop]

grovyle or chara (or both if u want) :+) ?

i will do chara bc they are on the mind sjldkfjsd

chara

favorite thing: in a meta sense, the way they connect to the themes/playing around with the video game medium! say what you will abt narra chara but cmon, making the item text/narrator an important character is exactly the kind of thing a video game deconstruction would do. its just an interesting concept to me inherently and i love it! and i like their role concerning the games theme of consequences. like how they're the one holding you accountable for the no mercy run even in pacifist runs, and how theyre the one who pushes the run to its end both because you have corrupted them to that point, and because they're annoyed that you caused all this carnage and don't like the idea of not seeing it through, and are annoyed that you want to go frolick in the pacifist run after all that. it's just interesting to me, theyre a very tragic character and i just find them investing.

least favorite thing: probably how they treated asriel when they were alive? im not saying its proof that chara was this evil demon child all along and abused the dreemurr family or whatever, but i don't really like how other people talking about narra chara just push their actions to asriel and his feelings about them under the rug. like, asriel did agree to the plan but you can't really ignore the fact that chara DID pressure him into it, plus the hint that they mocked him for crying. again, doesnt make them evil murder child and theyre 12 so they arent gonna be perfect, but i do see hints of like. chara projecting some of their trauma onto asriel and pushing for their way and their way only. so yeah, while i love them, i totally understand asriel and them possibly having a strained relationship in postgame because that makes sense considering... well, everything.

fanon pet peeves: i mean. do i need to point out the elephant in the room. i did already mention the asriel pet peeve earlier tho so yeah evil murder child chara that never loved the dreemurrs and was evil incarnate the whole time and forced frisk to kill the monsters. it's just... aside from the fact that all of that is just extremely tasteless to begin with considering chara is heavily implied to have had trauma from the surface, it's just.... so uninteresting? like in a game where every single main character is multifaceted, including the villain that has murdered people over and over for fun and the puppet antagonist, why are fans so intent to stop that with the first human? really think about how appalling and boring that is to go "ok the character thats a one dimensional killer who doesnt care about anything is the first human who had an established bond with 3 other main characters and was the one who set off the entire plot of the game"

like, even if you DO want to go down the "chara is the one initiating no mercy route" (which doesnt make sense, but lets just look) why not explore their feelings about murdering their mother, and later father and brother? why not look into WHY they are doing this beyond "eh they are murder child thats why"? why not take the opportunity to explore more lore about them and why they are doing this? all because a game not having a single one-dimensional character is just too much for people to comprehend? it's just appalling, and even more so when people push back against the idea that chara ISNT a one dimensional murder child for no real reason. because god forbid we have an actual interesting story beat to explore beyond "sans beats up evil villain and is a tragic hero" right?

[lcnguor]

THE MEGA RP PLOTTING SHEET / MEME.

First and foremost, recall that no one is perfect, we all have witnessed some plotting once which did not went too well, be it because of us or our partner. So here have this, which may help for future plotting. It’s a lot! Yes, but perhaps give your partners some insight? Anyway BOLD what fully applies, italicize if only somewhat.

Mun Name: Mik      Age: 26       Contact: IM, discord, smoke signal, whatever.

Character(s) I rp: Nora, Spike. Which muse(s) inspires you the most atm?(for MM): Nora, most likely Current Fandom(s): Fandomless Fandom(s) you have an AU for:  pretty much everything I find around and hop on. My language(s): spanish, english.  Themes I’m interested in for rp:   Fantasy / Science fiction / Horror / Western / Romance / Thriller / Mystery / Dystopia / Adventure / Modern / Erotic / Crime / Mythology / Classic / History / Renaissance / Medieval / Ancient / War / Family / Politics / Religion / School / Adulthood / Childhood / Apocalyptic / Gods / Sport / Music / Science / Fights / Angst / Smut / Drama / etc. Themes/Genres you have an AU for: modern without supernatural, I do have some fantasy set up but eh. 

Preferred Thread length: one-liner / 1 para / 2 para / 3+ / novella. Asks can be send by: Mutuals / Non-Mutuals / Personals / Anons. Can Asks be continued?:   YES / NO   only by Mutuals?:  YES / NO. Preferred thread type: crack / casual nothing too deep / serious / deep as heck. Is realism / research important for you in certain themes?:   YES / NO. Are you atm open for new plots?:  YES / NO / DEPENDS. Do you handle your draft / ask - count well?:  YES / NO / SOMEWHAT. How long do you usually take to reply?:  24h / 1 week / 2 weeks / 3+ / months / years. I’m okay with interacting: original characters / a relative of my character (an oc) / duplicates / my fandom / crossovers / multi-muses / self-inserts / people with no AU verse for my fandom / canon-divergent portrayals / au-versions (as main or only verse). Do you post more ic or occ?:  IC / OOC. Are you selective with following others?:  YES / NO / DEPENDS.  

Best ways to approach you for rp/plotting:  ask, IM, discord, singing telegram, smoke signals, messeger pidgeos -- whatever dude. I will most likely talk and ramble a lot, I do like plotting and I squeeze my brains out to think in ways to rp with ppl. and I really suck at approaching others. really...

What expectations do you hold towards your plotting partner:  Ideas and somewhat more enthusiasm than me. I tend to shy away or feel very much awkward right off the bat if the person approaches me with not much to say or give. And honestly, some people really intimidate me because I am too hard on myself, so giving a bit of a pat on the back makes me relax more. I deal with a lot of anxiety and I know people run away the second I show it. 

When you notice the plotting is rather one-sided, what do you do?:  Mostly when I am doing the talk or coming with ideas or looking generally more interested. It takes effort for me to get on things and actually do stuff but if it’s not the other way around I end up thinking they got bored of me. I am one hell of insecure person. As for what I do, if after many tries of trying to reach another person and end up feeling rejected or ignored, then ... I stop. What’s the point of insisting if the other person would just be awkward or not spare you a word?

How do you usually plot with others, do you give input or leave most work towards your partner?:  well, I usually ask first what the other thinks or have in mind, if nothing, I either suggest or start brainstorming with the other person. I know some who have dealt with me at first I seem like a dettached person but not having ideas really makes me feel like I have not much right to talk. I want to give yet without impossing or letting it twist my arm. I know for a fact nora’s lore really doesn’t help shit for most things. 

When a partner drops the thread, do you wish to know?:   YES / NO / DEPENDS. - And why?: if the thread was meaningful and we were really into it , then I would ask but as for the most, I don’t really bother with it. Sometimes people just lose muse, and even if I was enjoying it, I don’t have the right  to force someone or ask why they stopped. thread dropping is normal, i guess.  - What should your partner do when dropping a thread?:  whatever they want. telling me or not is up to them, I don’t really mind. RP is not something SUPER serious like it should be just perfect. I try to convice myself of this a lot.

What could possibly lead you to drop a thread?:  either because it was old as fuck, I couldn’t find muse or because it was lost in the void of tumblr’s amazing tracking system. - Will you tell your partner?:   YES / NO / DEPENDS.

Is communication in the rpc important to you?   YES / NO. - And why?:  if I do not have some idea of who am i rping with and what they have in mind, then it’s nearly impossible. being purely IC is really uncomfortable and could lead to a lot of misundertandings. - Are you okay with absolute honesty, even if it may means hearing something negative about you and/or portrayal?:  yeah. mostly yeah -- I mean, I will feel bad, I do have feelings, but I will take it with water. - Do you think you can handle such situation in a mature way?  YES ( but I will feel bad anyways ) / NO.

Why do you rp again, is there a goal?:  connect with others, ramble a lot about characters, have fun. I’ve been rping since i was 12 ( back then it was not big deal your age apparently ) and having to connect with other people by making these plots and stories and just having a fun time is something that brings me joy. There’s so much that can be done. And exploring my muses with other muses influences is really helpful to fill the holes left due indecisiveness.

Wishlist, be it plots or scenarios:  I wish people joined my lore more. Having muses that could be in the same story department as Nora in particular, would be hella and inspire me more. There is so much I have. Explore nora’s power is also something I want but it’s hard -- it’s very invasive and not many would really like it, feeling it’s meta. For now, I don’t really have other muses and Spike has her little crew outside tumblr.

Themes I won’t ever rp / explore:  umm, it’s hard to think in something in particular. But mostly stuff that collides with nora’s story/character. but there is a lot I am willing to explore.

What Type of Starters do you prefer / dislike, can’t work with?: casual starters are my fab. It’s easier to figure out how  to go or stop and think. plotted ones also work. as for what I dislike or cannot work with, things that force my muse to not act how they would? not giving me something solid is hard to handle. 

What type of characters catch your interest the most?:  I really like out of the norm muses, something that you see and say /oh , look at that/. Aesthetically, story wise or personality wise, something that goes out the usual troup most would use. I do have a guilty pleasure for opposite to my muse characters --- something that would really show the contrast with one another.

What type of characters catch your interest the least?:  Very basic ones? or those who try TOO hard to be special. A character that doesn’t fit in the context they are in, esp. in fandoms. HEAVILY divergent characters that just basically turn them into OCs. I know I sound like a bitch but I am the type who respect canon and the actual author behind the character too much. Also those that I don’t know much about? as in, the fandom never managed to catch my interest or smth in that line.

What are your strong aspects as rp partner?:  I know where is the line between fiction and reality. And that what your character does it does not reflect as the person you actually are. I am pretty laid back and I understand people’s views and reasoning. idk. I draw a lot if I am super invested ?

What are your weak aspects as rp partner?: I am super sporadic and can go from being super active to flat out dead for weeks. my mood swings a lot with the amount of attention I get, as horrible as it sounds. I am very anxious as a person for reasons ( not IRL mostly, just bad experience from previous partners ). I promise a lot but do little? honestly I will just bad mouth myself if I keep writing this.

Do you rp smut?:  YES ( tho mostly on discord ) / NO. Do you prefer to go into detail?:  YES / NO / DEPENDS. Are you okay with black curtain?:  YES / NO. - When do you rp smut? More out of fun or character development?:  both? - Anything you would not want to rp there?:  ehhhh, idk -- i don’t do as much to know what I don’t like here.

Are ships important to you?:   YES / NO / RELATIVE. Would you say your blog is ship-focused?:   YES / NO. Do you use read more?:  YES / NO / SOMETIMES. Are you: Multi-Ship / Single-Ship / Dual-Ship ��—  Multiverse / Singleverse. - What do you love to explore the most in your ships?:  the very nature of human relations. I am talking about Nora big time here -- there is a lot to explore in her relations and how she reacts and acts towards someone is very very contextual. How much she fakes, how much she is sincere, how much she struggles or how relaxed can be. force her to show her real self, which is very hazy even for her as a task. Be very poetic deep and also very shallow. I particulary see her as a character that REALLY depends on her relation with the other muse -- but generally speaking for any of my muses: I love to explore them as a pair and as individuals. - What is your smut tag?: the unfamily friendly. ( new tag (?))

Are you okay with pre-established relationships?: YES / NO. - And what kind of ones?: Anything? I am open to anything honestly. As long as it makes sense.

► SECTION ABOUT YOUR MUSE.

- What could possibly make your Muse interesting towards others, why should they rp with this particular character of yours now, what possible plots do they offer?:  Anyone who is denying their feelings, are peculiar as an individual or anyone who needs an insight of themselves and the world around them. Nora is a mentor type of character, she is here to be a support and help others explore themselves and learn. Also if you are a minor, she will most likely try to get close to help -- one must protect the good sad kids.

- With what type of Muses do you usually struggle to rp with?:  Stubborn, very fixated with things. Who would not open themselves to other perspective without thinking someone is trying to change them. Also she would struggle a heck lot with psychopaths and sociopaths, or anyone that “doesn’t have a face” for her. - With what type of Muses do they usually work well with?:  Curious people, struggling ones, kids in general -- people that are willing to listen to her opinions and try to improve in a positive way. Also those who are quirky in a way. 

- What interests your Muse(s) in general:  rabbits, literature, interesting people, the unknown, learning, relationships of all natures.  - What do they desire, is their goal?:  Live long without letting her particularity ruin her -- for her kind nobody makes it past the 50s and she wants that , to conquer her ability and prove that even with something like she is ( they are ), it’s posible to live and be happy. have a family of her own, yeah she is that cheesy. - What catches their interest first when meeting someone new?:  Their actions and the emotions that they are carrying on their back.  - What do they value in a person?:    sincerity, willingness, enthusiasm. - What themes do they like talking about?:  a lot of phylosophic stuff, deep topics -- as well to casual things of life. about people and society. - Which themes bore them?:  excuses and avoidance -- people who are willing to drop everything and give up.

- Did they ever went through something traumatic?:  the attempt of suicide of her mother. and the successfull suicide of many of her peers. - What could possibly trigger them?:  any sort of threat or violence towards someone who does not asked for it. esp. her peers and family. - What could set them off, enrage them?:  Immoral ones. Those who are willing to stomp on others just to success in their goal. - What could lead to an instant kill?:  is not killing, but touch a hair of her family and you are done. same for her friends and protegees.

- Is there someone /-thing they hate?:  gorgers, suicide, her tired face. - Is there someone /-thing they love?:   her family and dear ones --- to a fault. rabbits or anything related to it.

Is your Muse easy to approach?: YES / NO. - Best ways to approach them?:  any way is okay as long as is not threatening. - Where are they usually to find?:  during the night, in the streets -- during the day is either her workplace or her house. maybe a park near her apartment/location if she is feeling stuffy.

Something you may still want to point out about your muse?:  she is not a good person , she is willing to manipulate people and is constantly trying to impose her morals. but she is also very sensitive even if she doesn’t show it --- Nora does look tired for a reason , and one of them is because she cries a lot . 

CONGRATS!!! You managed it, now tag your mutuals! ♥

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